April 13th, 2011
Walid Shoebat Interview
The false prophet was Muhamed an angel of light – Lucifer calling itself Gabriel gave Muhamed the Quran and he thenforth served a God niether him nor his fathers served, The mahdi of muslim messiah is supposed to come and destroy the jewish and christian faiths and put muslims back in control of the Holy city. In fact thier messiah is the antichrist, as the word tells you Those who claim that the son did not come in the flesh and that he is not the son of God is of the spirit of the antichrist
TV INTERVIEW TRANSCRIPT
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Sid: My guest, a former Muslim terrorist, says seven nations will rise up to destroy the Antichrist. My question is will America be one of those nations? Next on this edition of It's Supernatural. Is there a supernatural dimension, a world beyond the one we know? Is there life after death? Do angels exist? Can our dreams contain messages from Heaven? Can we tap into ancient secrets of the supernatural? Are healing miracles real? Sid Roth has spent over 35 years researching the strange world of the supernatural. Join Sid for this edition of It’s Supernatural.
Sid: Hello. Sid Roth here. I am so pleased to tell you that I have a guest that was born in Bethlehem. This guest, because he was born in the East and because he's such a student of the scriptures has got a paradigm for the End Times that is so sound and so solid. But it's different than anything you've heard before and it's not new. It was many, many centuries ago, but it's just coming back right now for such a time as this. My guest was a terrorist. My guest was planning terrorism in America. My guest had bombs to kill Jewish people. Now he's making a lot of new shows. Let's take a look.
Walid Shoebat. Walid: One word caused me to believe in the truth of the Bible, and that's the word "Israel".
Sid: Hello. Sid Roth here with Walid Shoebat. And Walid, you were born in Bethlehem. Now the last time I was in Israel Bethlehem is not like the Bethlehem you were born in. But your father's father, or your grandfather, was Huseyni, good friend and Huseyni was the mafia of Jerusalem, good friends of Adolf Hitler. Why did Adolf Hitler like Islam so much?
Walid: Well he saw it as a more fitting religion and a more fitting system for even Germany. In fact, very few westerners know how much Adolf Hitler did compliment Islam, and he actually criticized what he called the flag religion of Christianity. And because Islam gave pride to people it was fit for the motherland, the father land, in this case, for Germany, that they would have this kind of pride that would call for war, because Islam was the religion of war and Nazis had a lot of commonality with Islamists.
Sid: And their view on Jewish people and Christians.
Walid: Absolutely.
Sid: So I mean, it was a natural fit for Adolf Hitler. Well Walid was born in Bethlehem. His mother came from America. She was Christian, but didn't understand her religion that well, married Walid's father and for 30-plus years your mother wanted to escape. Why couldn't she just leave him?
Walid: It's not that easy. She attempted to escape and she had to get her paperwork together because she had nothing. And so she had to remain one evening in the King David Hotel in which when she dashed to the embassy the second day, they were waiting for her at the entrance of the Council General in Jerusalem, the embassy. And she was taken back to the House of Obedience, of course, because Islam mandates that the husband really is in control of the wife.
Sid: Now when you say the House of Obedience, you mean Islam.
Walid: [Arabic] That's what Islam calls it, the House of Obedience.
Sid: Well wait a second. Our last couple of presidents have said Islam is a peace-loving religion.
Walid: [laugh] Islam is not a peace-loving religion.
Sid: So why do they say that? Walid: Because they have to cloak something that is so obvious. No one walks around saying Judaism is a loving religion or peace-loving religion, or Christianity is a peace-loving religion. Only Islam has to be cloaked because it's very obvious to people that that's a major problem. Even at the BBC, I remember doing a show at the BBC in England, millions listening, and I was criticized throughout the whole show. In the end, the interviewer who was criticizing me all throughout the show asked me a question. She said, "Walid, are you not afraid for your life?" I said, "Only a person that knows subconsciously the truth that Islam is not a peaceful religion would ask such a question."
Sid: You were raised to hate the Jew, to hate Israel with such a passion.
Walid: Absolutely. I mean, they talk about replacement theology. We believed in replacement theology of literally replacing the Jews and destroying them. It's part of Islamic eschatology that we learn in school, that the Day of Judgment will never happen until the Muslims wipe the Jews out.
Sid: His dad married a woman from America and tried to convert her to Islam. Unsuccessful. Walid married a woman that believed in Jesus. And to convert her to Islam he took a year to read the Bible and come up with his ammunition to accept the household, all the house of Islam. So what did you find when you read the Bible and thought for yourself?
Walid: I found the most amazing things I would ever find all throughout my life. By the time I read the beginning of Genesis, I won't put anything between you and the woman. The devil always hits the woman. All cults give a second status to women. By the time I got to Daniel, I've realized that there is this issue of the Antichrist, and Daniel describes the Antichrist as a person who makes a covenant for seven years, a false peace treaty. As a Muslim, I always knew the Madhya is the one that brings seven years of a peace treaty with Israel.
Sid: So you, what he's saying is there is a Messiah figure in Islam and he notices that the Bible describes the Antichrist with the same characteristics as the Messiah figure for Islam. What else did you see?
Walid: All the characteristics of the Antichrist are pretty well described in Islam as well as the good guy, you know.
Sid: So they're being set up.
Walid: Absolutely.
Sid: If you're Muslim, do you realize that one is right and one is wrong. Well why did you decide the Bible was right? Why did you didn't you decide the Koran was right?
Walid: That's a tough question because I had to go through the Bible and examine one word: Israel. When you run into Israel in the Bible, in Amos 9:15, it says, "I will plant them in the land that is Israel and no longer shall they be pulled out of that land." So if the Bible is a historic manuscript, this is where many historians make a mistake, if it's a book on history, God plucked them out the Babylonian Diaspora, the Roman Diaspora. It's talking about one verse that it's impossible to pluck Israel out. That was the Israel [Arabic]. And by the time I reached Isaiah, Chapter 63, we talk about Isaiah 53. How often do we talk about 63? 63 talks about the battle of the Messiah when he threads the wine press of the place called Edom.
And then he explains something. He talks about how God became Israel's savior. So He, God, became their savior. In all their afflictions, he was afflicted. So he tells us how he became Israel's savior. He suffered the same way Israel suffered. He suffered the same way in the Holocaust. If six million Jews died naked, the Messiah died naked. If six million Jews starved, he also was hungry. If six million Jews were in the ghettos, he was also in prison. If six million were silent, you'll never find a footage. And I watched hundreds of hours of footage of the Holocaust when I was Palestinian back in Israel. Never could find a footage where a Jew made a peep when he died going through the ovens. It was amazing.
Sid: And people say that you go too far with this interpretation. Jesus rose on the third day. Are you saying Israel rises on the third day?
Walid: Absolutely yes. When I read Hosea 6, I was shocked. Hosea 6: "After two days he will revive us," 2000 years. "He will revive us so we may live in his presence." Everything that parallels the Messiah, parallels Israel.
Sid: Well what did you find out about Lucifer?
Walid: Well that's very interesting because by the time you reach Isaiah 14, it talks about this person who is the king of Babylon who comes as the Antichrist, in this case, as explained in other places in the Bible. He is called Hillel ben Shahar. I went to the Hebrew. Hillel ben Shahar is very much a Middle Eastern term, because Hillel, which in Hebrew means "brightness". It also means "crescent moon."
Sid: Crescent moon?
Walid: Absolutely.
Sid: Lucifer means crescent moon? Hold that thought. Wait until you find out about the seven nations that he found that will defeat the anti-Messiah. I wonder if the United States of America is in that seven.
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Sid: Hello. Sid Roth here with Walid Shoebat. And Walid was born in Bethlehem. He was raised to be a terrorist. He was bred to be a terrorist. He hated the Jew. He hated Israel. He wanted to kill Jewish people. I've been wanting to ask someone who was raised that way this question, and here's my question to you, Walid. I have been at the museum where the Dead Sea Scrolls are. The Dead Sea Scrolls pre-date the Koran. Islam says that the Torah was corrupted in certain areas and the Koran is pure God. If the Dead Sea Scrolls are word for word the Torah and they pre-date the Koran, which one was corrupted?
Walid: Well the Koran is the corruption of the Torah of the Bible. While they accuse the Bible of being corrupted, when I read the Bible, I realized the Koran was simply borrowing things from the Bible and borrowing Apocrypha manuscript.
Sid: But it mixed up a lot of things that were in the Bible, which the Dead Sea Scrolls that pre- date the Koran prove who did the mixing.
Walid: Beyond a shadow of a doubt. As a matter of fact, I went to the Israel museum as a teenager and I was wondering, I was looking at the Isaiah scroll. It's the most amazing fascinating archeological relic they have. And I always wondered like why does it speak Hebrew? It's in Hebrew. And we sang the song of [Arabic]. Palestinians, the land cries out in Arabic. But there is a relic there that says it was crying out in Hebrew. That shocked me beyond belief that the Jews existed in that land a long time ago. And by the time you examine the Dead Sea Scrolls and you begin to read the Bible, you find out there's nothing different, absolutely nothing whatsoever.
Sid: Let me ask you this question. I mean, as time is slipping away. You have a paradigm that actually is an old paradigm for End Times that makes so much sense to me. It's so biblical. Explain briefly what you see for End Times.
Walid: Well I simply brought up an old paradigm because a long time ago they used to believe that Islam did play the major role in End Times. Because if we look at the Bible, all the countries that are mentioned in the Bible that God deals with, all of them are Islamic including all the nations that Christ deals with when he comes. When the Messiah comes to fight, and the nation is mentioned when he fights they're all Islamic. You look at Karaka 3. He fights against Midian. That's Arabia. You look at Isaiah 63. He fights against Edom. Ezekiel 25, God says, "I will stretch out my arm," that's the Messiah, "against Edom."
Sid: Then where does the European Union that everyone thinks that's the End Time player? Where do they fit in?
Walid: Nowhere.
Sid: Nowhere?
Walid: That's the problem. You know, Rome is mentioned 16 times in the Bible, not once in destruction. Spain is mentioned, not once in destruction. Gaul is mentioned not once in destruction. All the nations are to be destroyed. Even the Antichrist, you look at Ezekiel 28 all the way to 32.
Sid: I've often wondered this and I've got to ask a scholar in End Time prophesy, that has his paradigm right, this question: What is 666? What does that mean? Walid: Well there are several flavors. In Revelation, Chapter 13, it talks about the mark or the name, or the number of his name. Now if you took it in name itself, it doesn't mean a name of a person, because we look at the biblical usage of the word "name". Then we can understand what the Bible is saying because of the biblical usage of "name". I'll give you an example. "His name shall be called Emanuel, which his God with us." But Jesus' name is not Emanuel. He's not Mexican. His name is Yeshua. So a name is a description. It's a title. It's a creed. So they will have a creed of the beast, which is a blasphemous creed, by the way, and it's put on Charagma. It's on a Charagma, badge of servitude, regular badge that could be on cloth, has a blasphemous creed that is positioned on the foreheads of the followers of the Antichrist. That's exactly what Muslims are beginning to do. In fact, when I read the Bible, Islam talks about it. Sid: But what does 666 mean? Walid: Well there is another explanation is the three Greek symbols that adds to 666. Well that's a plausible. But the issue I found fascinating is when they looked at the Greek, those spoke Arabic.
Sid: Really.
Walid: For some reason, the Greek is also Arabic. And you look at the symbols. It says [Arabic] with the mark of a sword. That's the mark of Islam. [Arabic] means "in the name of Allah."
Sid: In the name of Allah?
Walid: Absolutely. Sid: That's what that means, is 666 in Arabic?
Walid: Absolutely. In Arabic it means "in the name of Allah". No one so far would ever refute that that's what it says in the Arabic language.
Walid: The definition of Allah in the Koran, he's anti-Trinity. The battle is between anti, you know, the Trinitarian versus anti-Trinitarian as Islam is. It denies the Father and the Son. First John 2:22 tells us—
Sid: Forgetting all that, I have been told that Allah is the name of the sun god.
Walid: [Allah is the name of] The moon god.
Sid: The moon god, I mean.
Walid: Absolutely. We have to understand how it came.
Sid: So what they're saying, so the moon good, our god created the moon along with everything else.
Walid: Yes.
Sid: So that's a very limited god?
Walid: Yes. In fact, the Bible gives us an illusion to this. Lalete [sp] is mentioned in the Bible, which is Alat. Alat has always been the feminine name for Allah that was one of his consorts pre-Islam in Arabia. Alat-Allah is a name. They're both names. So Alat later on became Ishtar and became all these things. And then in Arabia, it was worshiped as the moon god.
Sid: But these were false gods, according to the Jewish scriptures.
Walid: Absolutely. They're totally different gods than have ever been described in the Bible.
Sid: Okay. There are seven nations that Walid has found mentioned in the Bible that are going to be coming against the Antichrist. I want to know if the United States of America is one of them.
Sid: Walid, I can't wait to find out the answer to some of these questions. You see, I want to talk to someone born in the Middle East. I want to talk to someone that was raised as a terrorist. I want to talk to someone that had an encounter with the Living God and with every fiber of his being loves Jesus, loves the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, loves Israel. I want to find out from you because of all the firestorm that's going on in the Middle East and all the young people that are revolting against their governments, what is going to happen to the oil in the Middle East?
Walid: It's going to be destroyed and burned, especially in Saudi Arabia.
Sid: Why do you say that? Walid: Well in Isaiah 21, it's pretty clear. "The burden against the desert of this sea." That's Arabia. In fact, if people are in doubt, continue the text. It says, "The burden against Arabia." And it tells us who destroys it. "Arise on Elam." Elam is Persia, Iran. Iran will burn it to a point that it will burn forever. In Isaiah 34, it's pretty clear. "It will become burning pitch." And that's about Edom. Edom of course stems from Teman, Yemen to Edam, which is in Arabia. Sid: What is going to happen in the West if all this oil goes up in flames? But that's for another show. But tell me about Egypt. What's the future of Egypt.
Walid: Egypt will have a civil war. Isaiah 19. In fact, the question people should ask is why in Isaiah 19:1, "The Lord comes riding on a swift cloud and is coming into Egypt." When was the last time they taught here in the Sunday schools, you know, let's talk about Jesus Christ coming down to Egypt fighting Muslim Egypt. It's impossible. It doesn't even exist in the West. Yet he fights Egypt. And before he comes there will be a civil war. Egyptian will go against Egyptian. And then the believers in Egypt. In fact, "They will cry for the Lord to send them a savior and the Lord will send them the savior, and the mighty one." Who is the savior? The Messiah. He will come to fight Egypt, because of the persecution of the Coptic Christians, which we see already happening.
Sid: I got so many other nations I want to ask Walid about, but we just don't have the time. So I have to ask this question. Where did you come up with that there's seven nations that are going to fight the Antichrist? Where did that come from?
Walid: Well most people who read Micah 5, if you ask a westerner, you know, where's Jesus born, they give you Micah 5. He was born in Bethlehem. But they never continue the text. The text is pretty clear, that there is this Assyrian figure who is the Antichrist will come against Israel. Then God says, "We will raise against him," the Assyrian, "seven shepherds and eight princely men," who are the seven shepherds. In fact, the Bible tells us it's the seven shepherds that will destroy the Assyrian, the Antichrist. Seven allied world leaders will get together and will stand with Israel.
Sid: Okay. The million-dollar question: Where's the U.S. in this equation? Are we one of the seven, do you believe?
Walid: Yes, sir, because if you look at Daniel 11 where most people look at the character of the Antichrist thinking he's just a homosexual atheist person. No. He's very religious. He will honor a god of fortresses, a god of war, and he will declare war on the strongest fortresses. In other words, he declares war on the strongest military might in the world. He doesn't win. He loses because—
Sid: Okay. When there's this big war in Israel, is Israel going to rise to the occasion?
Walid: Absolutely. Half the city of Jerusalem will be taken, will be invaded by these troops that comes against Israel and there will be a rape epidemic in the Arab section against Jewish women. That's pretty clear in Zachariah. When Israel sees this it says in the Bible that "The feeble amongst Jew will fight like King David." In other words, Israel will be so zealous to fight for Jerusalem and they will be victorious because that's when the Messiah will come mounting the Mount of Olives and all the believers will be with him.
